Apparently what you don’t know is Al Lowenstein was a Congressman in Nassau County’s 5th District from 69-71.

How do I know this? I lived there then and I live there now.

Look it up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allard_K._Lowenstein

No one was marketing either the Reagan Biopic, or F9/11 with study guides for students.

If there’s any doubt that the film is being marketed as the “official story” behind 9/11, you can see the European marketing of the film.

The film was marketed directly to conservative commentators, and fringe right wing sights like frontpage magazine. A screener DVD was sent to hundreds of right-wing bloggers and commentators yet when President Bill Clinton and other former Clinton officials asked for screeners they were denied copies as were progressive bloggers.

Even some conservative writers are saying that running the show is a bad idea.

As for Kosovo, McCain may have supported it, but the GOP? I don’t think so:

“No goal, no objective, not until we have those things and a compelling case is made, then I say, back out of it, because innocent people are going to die for nothing. That’s why I’m against it.”

-Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/5/99

“American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy.”

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

“If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy.”

-Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of presidential candidate George W. Bush

“President Clinton is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation’s armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy.”

-Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA)

“I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning…I didn’t think we had done enough in the diplomatic area.”

-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

“You think Vietnam was bad? Vietnam is nothing next to Kosovo.”

-Tony Snow, Fox News 3/24/99

“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”

-Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)

Ironic, ain’t it? I can provide you with others. Love George and Tony’s trenchant analysis.

If Moore said they wanted to construct a pipeline, it does not, in fact, mean they completed one.

Perhaps Moore read this:

A senior delegation from the Taleban movement in Afghanistan is in the United States for talks with an international energy company that wants to construct a gas pipeline from Turkmenistan across Afghanistan to Pakistan. A spokesman for the company, Unocal, said the Taleban were expected to spend several days at the company’s headquarters in Sugarland, Texas.” “Taleban in Texas for talks on Gas Pipeline,” BBC News, December 4, 1997 (Sugarland is 22 miles outside Houston.)

As a very young kid, I worked for Allard Lowenstein in his successful campaign to Congress, before they gerrymandered it into the district that now chooses Peter King, now on a mission to shut up the NY Times.

I’ve no doubt he’d be disgusted by the GOP’s current agenda.

Just as I am.

I guess we must believe that no one who is not a John Bircher could possibly be friends with Rush Limbaugh. Sarcasm off

But for those who do actually believe that conservatives and liberals cannot share friendship I suggest you read the eulogies spoken by the same man thirty years apart. William F. Buckley’s eulogy of Allard Lowenstein and most recently his eulogy of John Kenneth Galbraith. As a conservative, I do heartily believe that had Bill Buckley preceded either gentleman in death he would have been eulogized by them in an equally caring manner. I cannot imagine this generation following that path.

Saying you like Clinton more than Bush is a meaningless statement. The disaster that Iraq has become is quietly applauded by liberals all over this nation. Anything less would have upset the partisan applecart and you can look to Donna Brazile’s interview on MSNBC after the successful Iraqi elections when she admitted, at the time, that things looked better in Iraq, but that there was still Iran and North Korea so there was still hope. Oh and Katie Couric’s response when told that Saddam may have escaped to Syria, her response “let’s hope so”

There are plenty of principled opponents of the war I respect, like the guys at American Conservative magazine, but for the Dems it’s a hammer they can use to regain power. They hope for defeat, and never desired victory. It’s people for whom the defining moment of the ir lives was not only their opposition to Vietnam, but their support for the NLF. Anything other than a defeat makes their lives have less meaning. I left five friends on the Wall. They died abandoned by their nation. If you want to know where I’m coming from, that’s where.

Frankly, it’s you indulging in name-calling.

I contrasted Moore with various Republicans, pointed to their lack of veracity, and you’ve not contradicted a word I wrote. Didn’t they also say the war would pay for itself?

I believe MM more than I do you, frankly. Calling him an idiot, I’m afraid, does not prove him wrong. Call me one too, if you like.

Your opinions are certainly interesting, but despite the things you’ve pointed out, I liked Clinton much better than Bush. Had he not been attacked by the GOP and deserted by spineless democrats we might have had a national health care system.

Had he not been pursued relentlessly by partisan zealots, over nothing that affected this country, he might have achieved a great deal more.

I despised Moynihan for a long time, not seeing him as a democrat. I believe he called for a special prosecutor for Clinton, and declared there was no health crisis in this country. He also told a young student acquaintance of mine, doing a report on homelessness in Long Island, that there was no such thing, and hung up on her.

He was wrong there, too. And he was not frequently quoted by prominent Republicans because he was such a great democrat.

I also can’t help but recall that Republicans, so often horrified at anyone who doesn’t support a wartime President, did nothing but vilify Clinton when he did anything with the military.

And nothing he did was remotely as disasterous as Iraq.

Though GW wouldn’t have turned Clinton’s surplus into the largest deficit we’ve ever had if his single overriding priority were not lowering Steve Forbes’ tax bill.

When Clinton was president, I worked fewer hours and made more real money.

I support unions and I support working people. I’m afraid GW Bush and the GOP support neither.

I am someone who cast his first ever presidential vote for Hubert Humphrey and has never regretted that for one day, but it will be a cold day in hell when the Democratic Party, as presently constituted, ever receives my vote again. There was a time, and I regret its passing, when Democrats could be counted on to be patriots to country and not to party. I long for those days.

However, you have no problem demanding evidence from me beyond a thus-far undisputed account in the NY Times.

The fact remains that Eisner refused to distribute the film, and you haven’t given a viable motive.

You think maybe Eisner lied about being concerned? You think he was being paranoid? Or that Moore’s agent simply slandered Eisner to a Times reporter hoping he wouldn’t sue?

Do you suppose Jeb Bush is too principled to threaten political enemies of his brother? That he got where he is by being a soft touch?

The thing about unsubstantiated phrases like “Michael Moore accusations” is that Mr. Moore has thus far proven far more credible than Mr. Bush and company.

What did Rumsfeld say–6 days, maybe 6 weeks? Was it Cheney who said they’ll welcome us with flowers? And that the opposition was winding down?

Wasn’t it GW who stood in front of a “Mission Accomplished” banner and told us major operations were over?

Everything they’ve told us has been a lie, and frankly, I’d rather have a President who has a sex life, and lies about it. Better yet, I’d rather not hear about it at all.

Just the other day, GW told Katie Couric, “One of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror.”

That’s no surprise, as a Senate Intelligence committee, like the 9/11 commission three years ago, found no connectinon between Sadaam and Al Queda.

Now I may indeed be nutty. In the wake of spending 9/11 in a city school, I actually believed GW when he said all that stuff about WMDs and Al Queda connections and smoking guns becoming mushroom clouds. I supported him when he started what turned out to be this abomination in Iraq.

I know better now. I’ll take “Michael Moore accusations” any day. I only wish I’d beleived him when he gave his Oscar speech. I’ll grant you that George, Condi, and Dick all deserved the Oscar more than Mike.

But you’ll have to pardon me if I find highly public unchallenged quotes from the NY Times more reliable than your offhand suppositions.