Comments on: Core Values and Contracts

By: Jack

Jack — Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:51:40 +0000

I also think that we should try and get the word out to our colleagues at our respective schools and encourage them to VOTE NO! I know I do every chance I get, and I have even gons so far as to tape up a sign in my building as to why this is not in anyones best interest excepts Randi’s (we all know she has future political aspirations no matter what she says). Think about it if this deal was so good and Randi so confident it will pass then why is she making the rounds visiting certain schools? Anyone have ICE’s and Teachers for a fair contract website address? I think I’ll join and definitely try and get Randi out of office next time around!

By: shouldhavegonetomeds

shouldhavegonetomeds — Sun, 16 Oct 2005 05:04:12 +0000

I just don’t see how this piece of crap is any good. Are people about to hit the exits? Are they thinking only of themselves with this? I am in my 29th year and yet in conscience I can not vote for this piece of garbage.

By: Islandgrl63

Islandgrl63 — Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:20:57 +0000

I have talked to fellow UFT’ers, both who work at other schools, one is a chapter leader and the other is a delegate. They said they think this new contract is a pretty good deal and are voting yes. I know they are entitled to their opinions, but-I keep hearing how everyone is so dissatisified with this stinker of contract-including myself. I make no bones about it and am very vocal about my disgust about how we got sold out. It’s a degrading, and all the twin bookends(Bloomberg and Klein) are looking to do is break the unions. You don’t have to look far-look at how the negotiations have been going with other unions.

By: Jack

Jack — Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:01:46 +0000

So 95% of teachers are voting for the contract now eh. I never knew we had Science Fiction writers posting on this site. I have made the rounds and have found way MORE than 5% who are voting this “sham” deal down. Randi I hope you are reading this post and ALL the others because you can show up at schools and try to dazzle and impress, but the emperor will still have no clothes. Your deal is going down.

By: shouldhavegonetomeds

shouldhavegonetomeds — Fri, 14 Oct 2005 03:16:39 +0000

I’m glad to see so many teachers get it and finally realize we need Democrats in office. We forgot that and many of our members not only voted for Giulianni but actually liked the man. A lot of us are so dumb we’d vote for him again. The cancerous, adulterous bastard is still amazingly popular. Giulianni’s endorsement was the final shoo-in for Bloomberg in the last election. So many of us only have ourselves to blame for the mess we are in these days. Giulianni could never have won withou teacher votes. Maybe Bloomberg seems more honest than some Dems, yeah but he stole everything BEFORE he got into office.

By: Jack

Jack — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:40:54 +0000

I agree! We ALL need to vote this crap of a contract down and NEVER let it see the light-of-day. What will Weingarten give up in 2007 since she practically eviscerated our basic core rights. The right to grieve is the very foundation upon which “unionism” was founded upon. If you remove this principal right you remove the very reason the union was founded. VOTE NO! I too am curious to know what Fernando Ferrer thinks of this piece of garbage they are trying to ram through. He has been strangely quiet on this, but maybe we have Randi to thank for this too, after all she never endorsed him when it would have meant something. She needs to go back and kiss Klein again because I bet he would kiss her again based on this crappy contract.

By: firebrand

firebrand — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:09:53 +0000

yeah vote for Freddy. We need Bloomberg out. Even Randi thinks Bloomberg will win…she said as much at the DA. She referred to it as “when he wins” not “if he wins”.

It ain’t over til it’s over.

Geez I’d love to know what Freddy thinks of this tentative contract. If he really wanted a surge in votes he’d come out and say it’s crap. His wife is a teacher (I suspect and administrator and not a UFT memeber) but still….If he’s so “for” teachers he should come out and slam this piece of crap that was “negotiated”.

By the way I am unclear as to whether the ballots will be mailed to the schools or our houses. Does anyone know which it is?

By: shouldhavegonetomeds

shouldhavegonetomeds — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:43:57 +0000

Voting no doesn’t mean a strike, That didn’t happen in 1995. The problem is we have so man tyro verdant teachers they can’t recall that. Vote No Randi will go back to the table and get at least one or two non menetary concessions and maybe even a percentage or two more money like sanitation just got.

And vote for Freddy too. Don’t give up yet!!1

By: NYC Educator

NYC Educator — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:12:03 +0000

You fail to point out some of the other points of this contract.

1. It fails, by any standard, to keep up with the 4.1% ny area inflation rate.

2. the unprecedented sixth class, wheich will inevitably be transformed to a full one in the next time for money swap

3. the precedent of the last two contracts that we don’t get a raise unless we pay our selves

4. 3 extra days of listening to Klein’s flunkies pontificate and

5. the grab-bag of goodies you give Klein, for a contract that’s less than cost of living

I’m voting no for this contract, as are most of the people in my biulding.

By: sstamatis

sstamatis — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:34:41 +0000

Achillesmj:

You’re right about one thing-the chancellor and his coroporate mentality is trying to teacher-proof teaching. That’s why there’s little regard for our professionalism and why they proscribed a lockstep workshop scripted model of teaching.

But I fail to see how you can make a logical leap to vote “no” for this contract. Voting “no” doesn’t change that or any of your other concerns.

Beside the obvious 15 percent increase in salary — the time for money swap is about 4.2 percent, there is according to the NYPost an almost guaranteed agreement on a 25/55 retirement plan. History shows that when the city and the union have agreed to support legislation, it is almost always enacted. That’s big!

This contract has negatives, but the pluses bring us closer to compatiblity with the suburbs. And 25/55 brings us ahead of them!

I’m voting yes for this contract.