Comments on: Hoxby’s Other “Stubborn Facts” http://www.edwize.org/hoxby%e2%80%99s-other-%e2%80%9cstubborn-facts%e2%80%9d Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:06:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Mayor Again Calls for Lifting Cap on Charter Schools - City Room Blog - NYTimes.com http://www.edwize.org/hoxby%e2%80%99s-other-%e2%80%9cstubborn-facts%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1#comment-66629 Mayor Again Calls for Lifting Cap on Charter Schools - City Room Blog - NYTimes.com Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:55:55 +0000 http://www.edwize.org/?p=5253#comment-66629 [...] studies supporting the effectiveness of charter schools, and her most recent example is now being examined by critics and [...] [...] studies supporting the effectiveness of charter schools, and her most recent example is now being examined by critics and [...]

]]> By: CarolineSF http://www.edwize.org/hoxby%e2%80%99s-other-%e2%80%9cstubborn-facts%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1#comment-66628 CarolineSF Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:13:26 +0000 http://www.edwize.org/?p=5253#comment-66628 Hoxby's so-called "study" is discredited up front by the fact that her primary public identity is as a longtime advocate of charter schools, vouchers and other "free-market solutions" in education. Just for that reason, the so-called "study" should be treated as an advocacy paper, not as impartial academic research. It's a major breach of journalistic standards and ethics for the media to cover it as though it were credible academic research, given Hoxby's open partisanship in favor of charter schools and against public education. Failing to disclose Hoxby's open partisanship is even worse -- the media screwed up big time on this. But any mention of this so-called "study" should include that disclaimer in big red letters. Hoxby’s so-called “study” is discredited up front by the fact that her primary public identity is as a longtime advocate of charter schools, vouchers and other “free-market solutions” in education.

Just for that reason, the so-called “study” should be treated as an advocacy paper, not as impartial academic research. It’s a major breach of journalistic standards and ethics for the media to cover it as though it were credible academic research, given Hoxby’s open partisanship in favor of charter schools and against public education. Failing to disclose Hoxby’s open partisanship is even worse — the media screwed up big time on this. But any mention of this so-called “study” should include that disclaimer in big red letters.

]]> By: Sam http://www.edwize.org/hoxby%e2%80%99s-other-%e2%80%9cstubborn-facts%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1#comment-66624 Sam Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:45:29 +0000 http://www.edwize.org/?p=5253#comment-66624 There's a basic problem with random assessment in this type of a study. One group got what they wanted-to leave the traditional schools-and the other did not. Might this color their attitudes toward schooling? Might some of these students become discouraged by having their hopes denied? There’s a basic problem with random assessment in this type of a study. One group got what they wanted-to leave the traditional schools-and the other did not. Might this color their attitudes toward schooling? Might some of these students become discouraged by having their hopes denied?

]]> By: Dee Alpert http://www.edwize.org/hoxby%e2%80%99s-other-%e2%80%9cstubborn-facts%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1#comment-66621 Dee Alpert Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:31:27 +0000 http://www.edwize.org/?p=5253#comment-66621 "Attrition is also a measure of equity, as district schools must educate all of the students who come through their doors while charters, with site-specific discipline codes and the power to expel students, do not." Perhaps I've missed something here. Weren't these charters started precisely because parents and many others felt that district schools were supposed to - but were not - educating all of the students who came/come through their doors? Why let the perfect be the enemy of the good? At least some kids are being reasonably educated. Are they to be denied this until the district home public school system gets its collective act together so that all the kids who live within appropriate home school boundaries are guaranteed good educations in the? Not likely to happen in our collective lifetimes. “Attrition is also a measure of equity, as district schools must educate all of the students who come through their doors while charters, with site-specific discipline codes and the power to expel students, do not.”

Perhaps I’ve missed something here. Weren’t these charters started precisely because parents and many others felt that district schools were supposed to – but were not – educating all of the students who came/come through their doors?

Why let the perfect be the enemy of the good? At least some kids are being reasonably educated. Are they to be denied this until the district home public school system gets its collective act together so that all the kids who live within appropriate home school boundaries are guaranteed good educations in the?

Not likely to happen in our collective lifetimes.

]]> By: Remainders: Duncan to praise NCLB in speech tomorrow | GothamSchools http://www.edwize.org/hoxby%e2%80%99s-other-%e2%80%9cstubborn-facts%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1#comment-66620 Remainders: Duncan to praise NCLB in speech tomorrow | GothamSchools Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:45:47 +0000 http://www.edwize.org/?p=5253#comment-66620 [...] digs into the data of the Hoxby [...] [...] digs into the data of the Hoxby [...]

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