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	<title>Comments on: More Stubborn Facts: A Response To The New Teacher Project&#8217;s Tim Daly</title>
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		<title>By: Arsonist Yells “Fire, Fire”: The New Teacher Project On ATRs &#124; Edwize</title>
		<link>http://www.edwize.org/more-stubborn-facts-a-response-to-tim-daly/comment-page-1#comment-66022</link>
		<dc:creator>Arsonist Yells “Fire, Fire”: The New Teacher Project On ATRs &#124; Edwize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A Study in Partisanship. [On Edwize, see our original post on the ATRs, the TNTP response, and our rejoinder.] Our publication of our calculations stands in stark contrast to TNTP itself, which has yet to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A Study in Partisanship. [On Edwize, see our original post on the ATRs, the TNTP response, and our rejoinder.] Our publication of our calculations stands in stark contrast to TNTP itself, which has yet to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Isaac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 17:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are legitimate and also nefarious reasons that principals hire F-status personnel. I know a school where such a person has done programning in a middle school for many years after his retirement. There is also an &quot;F&#039; status guidance counselor, lab specialist, and several others. Much of the work these people do should be done by administrators. Also, since the &quot;F&quot; status people are hired and fired at the principal&#039;s total discretion, those principals sometimes abuse the F-Status people. It is not uncommon for them to be used as de-facto supervisors, spying on our members, in exchange for, in some cases, a cool 30 grand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are legitimate and also nefarious reasons that principals hire F-status personnel. I know a school where such a person has done programning in a middle school for many years after his retirement. There is also an &#8220;F&#8217; status guidance counselor, lab specialist, and several others. Much of the work these people do should be done by administrators. Also, since the &#8220;F&#8221; status people are hired and fired at the principal&#8217;s total discretion, those principals sometimes abuse the F-Status people. It is not uncommon for them to be used as de-facto supervisors, spying on our members, in exchange for, in some cases, a cool 30 grand.</p>
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		<title>By: Schoolgal</title>
		<link>http://www.edwize.org/more-stubborn-facts-a-response-to-tim-daly/comment-page-1#comment-65668</link>
		<dc:creator>Schoolgal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you name a legitimate reason.  My school hired 2 F-status teachers to cover one maternity leave.  A full-time sub would have been cheaper.  I know these teachers get @ $250 per day.
There are ATRs doing day to day work.  This makes no sense to me.

I also know, and I&#039;m sure you do, that some F-status employees are friends of the principal and get paid a nice amount of money just to &quot;help out&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you name a legitimate reason.  My school hired 2 F-status teachers to cover one maternity leave.  A full-time sub would have been cheaper.  I know these teachers get @ $250 per day.<br />
There are ATRs doing day to day work.  This makes no sense to me.</p>
<p>I also know, and I&#8217;m sure you do, that some F-status employees are friends of the principal and get paid a nice amount of money just to &#8220;help out&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Maisie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maisie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 18:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Schoolgal,
I checked the number of F-Status teachers. (These teachers do not necessarily cost twice as much as a sub. Their pay rates vary.) This month, May 2008, there are 2,383 per diem F-Status teachers. That figure holds quite constant over the last four years (2,487 in May 2005). F-Status teachers generally have part-time assignments for a variety of legitimate reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Schoolgal,<br />
I checked the number of F-Status teachers. (These teachers do not necessarily cost twice as much as a sub. Their pay rates vary.) This month, May 2008, there are 2,383 per diem F-Status teachers. That figure holds quite constant over the last four years (2,487 in May 2005). F-Status teachers generally have part-time assignments for a variety of legitimate reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Schoolgal</title>
		<link>http://www.edwize.org/more-stubborn-facts-a-response-to-tim-daly/comment-page-1#comment-65652</link>
		<dc:creator>Schoolgal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 21:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the DoE, UFT, or NTP have any stats about how many teachers are working F-status at double the cost of a sub?</description>
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		<title>By: The New Teacher Project Responds &#124; Edwize</title>
		<link>http://www.edwize.org/more-stubborn-facts-a-response-to-tim-daly/comment-page-1#comment-65641</link>
		<dc:creator>The New Teacher Project Responds &#124; Edwize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 07:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we are publishing it here, exactly as we received it, together with our reply, which appears in the next post. While the Department of Education has never provided the UFT with opportunities to respond to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we are publishing it here, exactly as we received it, together with our reply, which appears in the next post. While the Department of Education has never provided the UFT with opportunities to respond to [...]</p>
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