Comments on: Stubborn Facts, Pliable Statistics and The Manufactured Crisis of Excessed Educators http://www.edwize.org/stubborn-facts-pliable-statistics-and-the-manufactured-crisis-of-excessed-educators Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:46:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: They are trying to fire NYC teachers without cause « JD2718 http://www.edwize.org/stubborn-facts-pliable-statistics-and-the-manufactured-crisis-of-excessed-educators/comment-page-1#comment-66266 They are trying to fire NYC teachers without cause « JD2718 Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:48:16 +0000 http://edwize.org/?p=1218#comment-66266 [...] They are trying to fire NYC teachers without cause December 26, 2008 pm31 10:47 pm Posted by jd2718 in Bronx, NY, New Teachers, New York, New York City, New York City Department of Education, Teacher Pay, Teachers, UFT, United Federation of Teachers, nyc. trackback First it was the ATRs. The DoE wanted to fire them if they remained unplaced. We stopped that. [...] [...] They are trying to fire NYC teachers without cause December 26, 2008 pm31 10:47 pm Posted by jd2718 in Bronx, NY, New Teachers, New York, New York City, New York City Department of Education, Teacher Pay, Teachers, UFT, United Federation of Teachers, nyc. trackback First it was the ATRs. The DoE wanted to fire them if they remained unplaced. We stopped that. [...]

]]> By: Arsonist Yells “Fire, Fire”: The New Teacher Project On ATRs | Edwize http://www.edwize.org/stubborn-facts-pliable-statistics-and-the-manufactured-crisis-of-excessed-educators/comment-page-1#comment-66020 Arsonist Yells “Fire, Fire”: The New Teacher Project On ATRs | Edwize Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:02:56 +0000 http://edwize.org/?p=1218#comment-66020 [...] we published our calculations in our white paper, A Study in Partisanship. [On Edwize, see our original post on the ATRs, the TNTP response, and our rejoinder.] Our publication of our calculations stands in stark [...] [...] we published our calculations in our white paper, A Study in Partisanship. [On Edwize, see our original post on the ATRs, the TNTP response, and our rejoinder.] Our publication of our calculations stands in stark [...]

]]> By: Endgame: Comity or Conflict? The Union Coalition Dukes It Out With Klein As the School Days Ebb. | Edwize http://www.edwize.org/stubborn-facts-pliable-statistics-and-the-manufactured-crisis-of-excessed-educators/comment-page-1#comment-65797 Endgame: Comity or Conflict? The Union Coalition Dukes It Out With Klein As the School Days Ebb. | Edwize Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:28:21 +0000 http://edwize.org/?p=1218#comment-65797 [...] union responded vigorously with a “loud” back and forth, see UFT here and New Teacher Project here  and UFT Report [...] [...] union responded vigorously with a “loud” back and forth, see UFT here and New Teacher Project here  and UFT Report [...]

]]> By: Endgame: Comity or Conflict? The Union Coalition Dukes It Out With Klein As the School Days Ebb. « Ed In The Apple http://www.edwize.org/stubborn-facts-pliable-statistics-and-the-manufactured-crisis-of-excessed-educators/comment-page-1#comment-65791 Endgame: Comity or Conflict? The Union Coalition Dukes It Out With Klein As the School Days Ebb. « Ed In The Apple Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:35:11 +0000 http://edwize.org/?p=1218#comment-65791 [...] should be laid off.   The union responded vigorously with a “loud” back and forth, see UFT here and New Teacher Project here  and UFT Report here.   The contract does not end until November, [...] [...] should be laid off.   The union responded vigorously with a “loud” back and forth, see UFT here and New Teacher Project here  and UFT Report here.   The contract does not end until November, [...]

]]> By: Recruiting Teaching Fellows « JD2718 http://www.edwize.org/stubborn-facts-pliable-statistics-and-the-manufactured-crisis-of-excessed-educators/comment-page-1#comment-65777 Recruiting Teaching Fellows « JD2718 Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:34:18 +0000 http://edwize.org/?p=1218#comment-65777 [...] lower salaries. The New Teachers Project reaps a $$ bonanza with their planned obsolescence, and an ideological bonanza with their pool of confirmed anti-union [...] [...] lower salaries. The New Teachers Project reaps a $$ bonanza with their planned obsolescence, and an ideological bonanza with their pool of confirmed anti-union [...]

]]> By: nycityteacher http://www.edwize.org/stubborn-facts-pliable-statistics-and-the-manufactured-crisis-of-excessed-educators/comment-page-1#comment-65684 nycityteacher Mon, 12 May 2008 01:19:28 +0000 http://edwize.org/?p=1218#comment-65684 In response to Love to Teach, contract negotiations are just that -- negotiations. We gave up seniority rights because we decided to seek greater salaries and other benefits. I think it would be selfish of us to try to have it all. In response to Love to Teach, contract negotiations are just that — negotiations. We gave up seniority rights because we decided to seek greater salaries and other benefits. I think it would be selfish of us to try to have it all.

]]> By: Watch What They Do, Not What They Say… | Edwize http://www.edwize.org/stubborn-facts-pliable-statistics-and-the-manufactured-crisis-of-excessed-educators/comment-page-1#comment-65679 Watch What They Do, Not What They Say… | Edwize Sun, 11 May 2008 18:05:44 +0000 http://edwize.org/?p=1218#comment-65679 [...] isn’t it, that while the DoE and The New Teacher Project are telling anyone who will listen that the numbers of ATRs are a burden to the system, principals are issuing [...] [...] isn’t it, that while the DoE and The New Teacher Project are telling anyone who will listen that the numbers of ATRs are a burden to the system, principals are issuing [...]

]]> By: Love to Teach http://www.edwize.org/stubborn-facts-pliable-statistics-and-the-manufactured-crisis-of-excessed-educators/comment-page-1#comment-65648 Love to Teach Wed, 07 May 2008 09:54:57 +0000 http://edwize.org/?p=1218#comment-65648 I don't know if Bloomberg wants to negotiate again with us. He's gone one month after our contract expires. How do we get back seniority rights without giving up some of the major economic and pension gains we received. Both the City and State say they are broke, and it looks like we are in a recession. We may be stuck here, hopefully not. I would hate to be in an ATR shoes. I don’t know if Bloomberg wants to negotiate again with us. He’s gone one month after our contract expires.
How do we get back seniority rights without giving up some of the major economic and pension gains we received.
Both the City and State say they are broke, and it looks like we are in a recession.
We may be stuck here, hopefully not.
I would hate to be in an ATR shoes.

]]> By: Schoolgal http://www.edwize.org/stubborn-facts-pliable-statistics-and-the-manufactured-crisis-of-excessed-educators/comment-page-1#comment-65647 Schoolgal Tue, 06 May 2008 23:00:06 +0000 http://edwize.org/?p=1218#comment-65647 Yet, when I read Pissedofteacher's blog, she often laments how unfairly the ATR in her school is being treated. And, being assigned to a school is not the same as being appointed. I am sure these teachers would rather be appointed. On May l, 2007, a year ago Leo wrote... "The suggestion that it was a mistake to give up the seniority transfer system that produced far less for all teachers defies common sense." Come September more schools will close and the ATR pool will increase. NTR and the NYTimes and Daily News will again reopen this campaign claiming a drain on our students' education. And, this will become a public relations nightmare. Hopefully, especially in this economy, no other union will ever play the seniority card for cash again. http://edwize.org/stubborn-facts-pliable-statistics-and-the-manufactured-crisis-of-excessed-educators#more-1218 Yet, when I read Pissedofteacher’s blog, she often laments how unfairly the ATR in her school is being treated.
And, being assigned to a school is not the same as being appointed. I am sure these teachers would rather be appointed.

On May l, 2007, a year ago Leo wrote…

“The suggestion that it was a mistake to give up the seniority transfer system that produced far less for all teachers defies common sense.”

Come September more schools will close and the ATR pool will increase. NTR and the NYTimes and Daily News will again reopen this campaign claiming a drain on our students’ education. And, this will become a public relations nightmare. Hopefully, especially in this economy, no other union will ever
play the seniority card for cash again.

http://edwize.org/stubborn-facts-pliable-statistics-and-the-manufactured-crisis-of-excessed-educators#more-1218

]]> By: Seven Different Kinds Of ATR Smoke! at More About Education http://www.edwize.org/stubborn-facts-pliable-statistics-and-the-manufactured-crisis-of-excessed-educators/comment-page-1#comment-65639 Seven Different Kinds Of ATR Smoke! at More About Education Tue, 06 May 2008 04:31:44 +0000 http://edwize.org/?p=1218#comment-65639 [...] the UFT unleashed their rumored doomsday weapon in the debate over the absent teacher reserve (ATR) via Edwize and ATR chronicler Elizabeth [...] [...] the UFT unleashed their rumored doomsday weapon in the debate over the absent teacher reserve (ATR) via Edwize and ATR chronicler Elizabeth [...]

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