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Two more school closings were announced on Friday, followed by three more over the weekend. With 8 closings already announced, that brings the total to 13. What do you think of the strategy to announce the school closings slowly instead of all at once?

Joel Klein defends school closings . . .

. . . while alums remember Far Rockaway High School, one of the schools scheduled to close.

What do you think of Community Education Councils?

The Model City Council debates the cell phone ban.

New York City public school students and graduates are thanking teachers.



  • 1 Schoolgal
    · Dec 10, 2007 at 6:24 pm

    You want to know what we think about the school closing announcements?
    I think this is a ploy by all parties, including our union, to end seniority and tenure in one easy shot.
    First Klein hires a “firing squad” to go after tenured teachers and now the closings. Yet he and the mayor are honored guests at a birthday party. And now a respected education panel is closing their doors because no one is allowed to tell it like it is. Our union president calls it a punishment, yet she doesn’t seem to have to bare the burden of becoming an ATR, or work without basic protections. Her rank and file are the ones getting punished.

    He might as well announce all the schools being closed so teachers can hurry up and check that Open Market for wonderful opportunities.

  • 2 mevans212
    · Dec 11, 2007 at 3:20 pm

    Klein traded one big story for a bunch of little ones. It is a wash in terms of coverage, but he got off the hook with those parent complaints that are broken up across each story instead of being bundled together in one story. That makes it look like fewer parents are up in arms. We’ll see if the papers go back and write the parent reaction story once all the closings are announced.

    Paranoid much Schoolgal? And what’s with the “we,” are you plural? Schools close every year. It sucks, but you don’t lose your tenure or seniority. More rational arguments, less conspiracy theories.

  • 3 NYC Educator
    · Dec 11, 2007 at 4:22 pm

    Paranoid much Schoolgal?

    It’s regrettable that blatant ad hominem attacks are considered suitable here. Name calling is a poor substitute for argument.

    It’s undeniable that closed schools are required to rehire only 50% of their faculties, and that the other 50% will be placed in the burgeoning ATR brigades.

    That’s neither irrational nor a conspiracy theory, and ATRs who write me are very insecure and demoralized. I don’t blame them at all.

  • 4 Schoolgal
    · Dec 11, 2007 at 5:07 pm

    Only on Edwize can we be asked to post our comments and they are either attacked or deleted. Hence, the lack of comments in general.

    If mevans thinks we don’t lose our seniority, then why can’t a senior teacher bump a new teacher instead of becoming an ATR? And if you don’t think tenure is under attack, why is Klein hiring a bunch of lawyers whose job it is to figure out a way to fire tenured teachers?

    In the spirit of the holidays I will refrain from calling you a name.

  • 5 sarah78
    · Dec 11, 2007 at 5:42 pm


    Your opinion is not the only one that deserves to be heard.

    Klein attacking tenured teachers does not mean every action Klein takes is an attack on tenured teachers. School closings are not a “ploy” – your word – to end tenure or seniority. Don’t twist what mevans said to obscure what you said.

    “the other 50% will be placed in the burgeoning ATR brigades”

    That’s not true, and calling you on it is not an attack.

  • 6 NYC Educator
    · Dec 11, 2007 at 6:15 pm

    That’s not true, and calling you on it is not an attack.

    I don’t recall saying it was. But teachers who aren’t rehired are placed into the ATR pool. That’s what the contract says. These teachers are not automatically assigned to other schools, and while it’s theoretically possible for senior teachers to find employment elsewhere, it’s an uphill battle.

    I hear from many ATR teachers. One of them wrote me recently to tell me she was resigning. It’s not a pretty picture out there, and I wouldn’t want to be in their shoes.

    And the fact is Chancellor Klein has repeatedly expressed his distaste for tenure, seniority, and any and all job protections or perks for teachers, even writing a prominent eight-page contract that would’ve set us back a hundred years.

    It’s hard for me to see how Mr. Klein does not wish to end the practice of tenure. By dumping teachers into a purgatory of perpetual substitute teaching, he hardly encourages them. By making principals factor in their salaries when hiring them, he makes it more difficult for them to get jobs.

    That’s as far as he’s gotten, for now, but he doesn’t care much for tenure, or salary steps, or seniority, and I believe the Blue Ribbon Panel he sat on with Mayor Bloomberg and Rod “The NEA is a terrorist organization” Paige recommended the end of teacher pensions as well.

    Mr. Klein’s agenda has been fairly obvious for some time now. He does little to hide it, as far as I can tell.

  • 7 Schoolgal
    · Dec 11, 2007 at 6:27 pm


    You say “Your opinion is not the only one that deserves to be heard.”
    I agree with that. But it also didn’t deserve to be attacked in such a personal way by your friend.

    I will say this. When “one” tenured or senior teacher is attacked either by becoming an ATR or put in the rubber room without knowing the charges, I think “we” should stand by that teacher. And you can spin it any way you want, but becoming an ATR is an attack on seniority rights.