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Edwize has been live for a little under a week, and the response has been tremendous and mostly positive. Let us know your thoughts about the technology, and the design of the blog below.

Do you like the comment preview?

Are the links dark enough?

Would you rather see only the beginning of the post, with the rest of it hidden behind a read more button?

Would you rather see threaded comments?

Something that another blog has that you’d like us to implement here.

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21 Comments:

  • 1 dr_dru
    · Aug 26, 2005 at 3:45 pm

    If this is sponsored by the UFT, why did I have to find out about it’s existence in the Daily News?

    I am a dues paying member of the UFT, registered on the website and have searched the UFT website for any hint of this blog…none exists.

    Is this what the leadership of the UFT thinks of the rank and file and our opinions?

  • 2 dr_dru
    · Aug 26, 2005 at 3:59 pm

    So….who are all these people who contributed?

    Somehow the newspapers knew before the members, apparently it was more important to let them know first…instead of the people who support the union through our dues.

    Do we as a union think it is acceptable to wait 19+ days to announce new, important, and exciting developments?

  • 3 roseba
    · Aug 26, 2005 at 3:59 pm

    Web launches are frequently launched quietly in order to work out unforeseen kinks before an official announcement goes out.

    Look for an official launch announcement soon.

  • 4 dr_dru
    · Aug 26, 2005 at 4:26 pm

    roseba

    Apparently your comment has been edited after it’s posting. Originally you said the blog would be announced in the Sept 8 2005 UFT paper.

    Interesting……

  • 5 redhog
    · Aug 26, 2005 at 6:02 pm

    Why not check out risaac.blogs.com

  • 6 a-realist
    · Aug 26, 2005 at 8:57 pm

    This blog site should become quite active once the rest of the teaching staff has returned and is made aware of the open forum. This will make for a great interchange of ideas among New York City teachers.

  • 7 dr_dru
    · Aug 26, 2005 at 9:40 pm

    a-realist wrote,
    “This blog site should become quite active once the rest of the teaching staff has returned and is made aware of the open forum. This will make for a great interchange of ideas among New York City teachers.”

    How were you “made aware of” this blog and how do you know that the rest of the staff is not already here in NYC or online elsewhere?

    My point is: that with the blog already being out without the majority of the UFT members knowing about it hence the ability to contribute to it-the editorial content is already compromised. The first adopters have already staked their positions.

    Just another aspect/downside of the digital divide…the have-nots and the have-laters are already late to the discussion.

    dru

  • 8 eumenides
    · Aug 26, 2005 at 10:24 pm

    Dr_Dru:

    Physician, heal thyself. This blog is one week old. It was launched Fri. eve, the 19th. Those of us who did know it was something the UFT was toying with–something lots of unions have been considering but haven’t done yet–didn’t see it until Monday am. Joe Williams, the luke-warm-to-labor ed writer at the Daily News and a big blogger enthusiast himself, gave it a half-hearted mention soon after. That was followed by two NY Post blasts, which meant this blog never even had time to get its sea legs when the sharks came circling.

    Do you really believe that after one week you’ve missed out on something? Think you’re not present at the creation? See this blog as a finished product? Something the rest of our members can’t shape as their own? It looks raw and wide open to me.

    Just as A-realist said, wait till the other members are back from vacation–or from vacation mode. The joint will be jumpin’.

  • 9 dr_dru
    · Aug 26, 2005 at 11:27 pm

    eumenides wrote,
    “Just as A-realist said, wait till the other members are back from vacation–or from vacation mode. The joint will be jumpin’.�

    How can you possibly know what all the other members are doing? I know you are well meaning but, no attempt was made to either inform or contact them/us; either through e-mail or the UFT web page. A web page that: as of 10:44 Saturday Night, when entering the term. “edwize� in the search function results in: “No results found.� This is one full week after the blog started.

    So, to mix metaphors, “this blog never even had time to get its sea legs when the sharks came circling.� This is because the members never had notice to get on board and put their oars in the water.

    “Do you really believe that after one week you’ve missed out on something?�
    Yes, I do. Have you ever tried to catch up to a discussion after it already started? Ever have a student come late to class and try to catch up?

    Will the joint be jumpin? Only time will tell.

    Still wondering why roseba’s post was edited to exclude the date of Sept. 8th in the UFT paper as to when and where the blog would be officially announced.

  • 10 eumenides
    · Aug 27, 2005 at 1:37 am

    Dr. Dre wrote: “Yes, I do [believe that after one week I missed out on something].
    Have you ever tried to catch up to a discussion after it already started? Ever have a student come late to class and try to catch up?”

    Me catch up on a discussion after it’s started? Listen, as far as I’m concerned the real discussion doesn’t begin till I get there. And with every previous comment entombed in amber on this blog, anybody can catch up. Plus, new discussions start all the time. Do you really think we’ll still be talking about the Post’s Ryan Sager much longer? That’s a depressing thought. I’ll stop talking about the enfant terrible if you do.

    The student-coming-in-late analogy doesn’t work. This isn’t pedagogy. Think of it as
    a permanently functioning, 24/7 town meeting. Sort of like the Energizer bunny; always on, banging away and (it is to be hoped) not walking into walls. Plus you can leave the discussion and come right back in without missing anything.

    As to why the blog wasn’t boosted on the Web site at least? Yeah, why wasn’t it? No good (or bad) reason I can think of. Could it have been human error? So don’t be so conspiracy-minded.

    Last point. Where was the mixed metaphor?

  • 11 roseba
    · Aug 27, 2005 at 10:04 am

    Dr_dru – I edited the post due to a typo, and because I realized that I’m not in a position to guarantee an exact date or method for an official announcement.

    The bottom line of your criticism is that you weren’t informed of it’s launch. There is a very good reason for that.

    As Eumenides pointed out, this blog hasn’t gotten it’s sea legs. As with most new products, they are tested and refined with a small audience. This is common practice in technology, consumer goods, and retail establishments.

    While this blog is a very good product, I can think of a 1/2 a dozen things that could be implemented to improve it. Some are minor and some are egregious. It really isn’t ready for prime time, nor the swarm of traffic an official announcement would bring.

  • 12 grammarian
    · Aug 27, 2005 at 10:59 am

    dr_dru wrote, “If this is sponsored by the UFT, why did I have to find out about it’s existence in the Daily News?”

    roseba wrote, “The bottom line of your criticism is that you weren’t informed of it’s launch. There is a very good reason for that.”

    You both make valid points. However, may I be rude enough to point out that you both use “it’s” incorrectly?

    “It’s” with an apostrophe is used to abbreviate “it is.” Use “its” (no apostrophe) to show possession. While this may seem minor, we educators have a responsibility to use the language correctly. Let’s get it right before our critics jump all over us!

  • 13 roseba
    · Aug 27, 2005 at 11:40 am

    Mea culpa grammarian. I am neither and educator, or a writer. Just someone who tries to keep the blog running smoothly. I’ll try to do better in the future.

  • 14 dr_dru
    · Aug 27, 2005 at 3:26 pm

    roseba,

    Thank you for notifying us of the editing you made to a post.

    Does this mean we all have the ability to edit our posts without notifying people of the corrections?

    Maybe I can go back to my “it’s� and change it to suit grammarian. (isle tri too right bettor two).

    You said that there was a very good reason to not inform the Union members of the launch of a major new product. “It really isn’t ready for prime time, nor the swarm of traffic an official announcement would bring.� Then why would you link to other blogs and have them talk about ours? I think the amount of active readers and contributors of all the blogs you link to far surpasses the amount of UFT members.

    By the way, if you wanted a small, select group of people to test this blog, you could have just used the UFT e-mail list. That way you could have only registered UFT members post, but allow others to read. Then iron out the bugs, add links and then make an official announcement.

    Common courtesy to the people who pay the dues that support this site would have been nice.

  • 15 EdWonk
    · Aug 27, 2005 at 8:48 pm

    Congrats on the roll out. Loading time is good and your site renders fine in IE 6.0 You might consider somehow including your sponsor’s name higher on the page.

  • 16 instructivist
    · Aug 28, 2005 at 11:52 am

    I don’t like threaded comments.

  • 17 everyman2
    · Aug 30, 2005 at 9:20 pm

    How do you start a topic/thread? Is it only the UFT that can do this?

  • 18 kombiz
    · Aug 30, 2005 at 9:53 pm

    Everyman, only posters can write a post where people can comment. This is probably the only open thread we’ll have for a while.

  • 19 mgatton
    · Sep 1, 2005 at 9:10 am

    Back to the topic, the page is too wide – doesn’t fit on my 17 inch monitor without scrolling left-right, which is annoying.

    Love the blog, love the idea, already added to my subscriptions.

  • 20 Edwize Admin
    · Sep 1, 2005 at 8:27 pm

    See the Sept. 8th New York Teacher WebCorner column for an announcement.

  • 21 saporita
    · Sep 9, 2005 at 9:12 pm

    Interesting place. The UFT site should have a link to it. We should also have some way to email or fearless leader, Randi. I would really like to start a thread about the inequities amoung the schedules of the forgotten cluster teacher.