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		<title>By: August</title>
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		<dc:creator>August</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read Carey&#039;s most recent post where he says that most of his work has been with politicians on the left.  I know that the conventional wisdom is that education makes strange bedfellows-- Kennedy likes the Aspen report, etc.--and so the action is in the New Democratic center.  However, out in the schools, far from the think tanks, what it looks like is this:  the NCLB deal that was supposed to give money and support for low income school communities in exchange for accountability has resulted in not much money and support and lots of accountibility, with no clear benefits for kids.  

Nonetheless, Carey and others like him continue to beat up on teachers and support more testing for kids, claiming that at the end of some long road is a better system.  The best quote on NCLB and the current policy climate came from Greg Topos in USA Today. It goes something like this:  &quot;The further you get from the classroom, the better it all sounds.&quot;  I would think that would give people like Carey pause, but I guess not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Carey&#8217;s most recent post where he says that most of his work has been with politicians on the left.  I know that the conventional wisdom is that education makes strange bedfellows&#8211; Kennedy likes the Aspen report, etc.&#8211;and so the action is in the New Democratic center.  However, out in the schools, far from the think tanks, what it looks like is this:  the NCLB deal that was supposed to give money and support for low income school communities in exchange for accountability has resulted in not much money and support and lots of accountibility, with no clear benefits for kids.  </p>
<p>Nonetheless, Carey and others like him continue to beat up on teachers and support more testing for kids, claiming that at the end of some long road is a better system.  The best quote on NCLB and the current policy climate came from Greg Topos in USA Today. It goes something like this:  &#8220;The further you get from the classroom, the better it all sounds.&#8221;  I would think that would give people like Carey pause, but I guess not.</p>
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		<title>By: jd2718</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo,

if you are going to debate these people, (and I wonder why you would, but your choice), can you at least tell us the context up front? 

For those of you who don&#039;t want to click the (vile) link, it&#039;s a smarmy anti-union pro-merit pay argument.

Jonathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo,</p>
<p>if you are going to debate these people, (and I wonder why you would, but your choice), can you at least tell us the context up front? </p>
<p>For those of you who don&#8217;t want to click the (vile) link, it&#8217;s a smarmy anti-union pro-merit pay argument.</p>
<p>Jonathan</p>
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