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		<title>By: Michael Hirsch</title>
		<link>http://www.edwize.org/those-rare-moments-of-political-clarity/comment-page-1#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Context, indeed. Folks should note that Antonucci doesn&#039;t link to my post. If he had, readers would see the context. Likening Bush behavior to an&#160; instinct for torturing small creatures referred to Bush&#039;s federal order to moot prevailing wage protections for workers involved in the Gulf Coast reconstruction. Gratuitous and cruel and ignoble it was. Have a better way to describe the president&#039;s action, Mike, in ripping out a meager $9/hr wage floor ? Fiscally prudent, perhaps?   Jesse Jackson used to say that &quot;text without context is pretext.&quot;  Sounds like he was reading your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Context, indeed. Folks should note that Antonucci doesn&#8217;t link to my post. If he had, readers would see the context. Likening Bush behavior to an&nbsp; instinct for torturing small creatures referred to Bush&#8217;s federal order to moot prevailing wage protections for workers involved in the Gulf Coast reconstruction. Gratuitous and cruel and ignoble it was. Have a better way to describe the president&#8217;s action, Mike, in ripping out a meager $9/hr wage floor ? Fiscally prudent, perhaps?   Jesse Jackson used to say that &quot;text without context is pretext.&quot;  Sounds like he was reading your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
		<link>http://www.edwize.org/those-rare-moments-of-political-clarity/comment-page-1#comment-387</link>
		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 04:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter evil one: The more you write the more of your words I can take stuff out of context. - I just read the peice Michael Antonucci referred to and part of what he&#039;s complaining about is language as imagery that the author uses. No context from Antonucci&#039;s cut out quotes, but what would one expect. 

Redhog - Whatever you want to say about the big dog (Bill Clinton), at least Clinton hired Klein to be a prosecutor not to run the Department of Ed. Context is as important as the quote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter evil one: The more you write the more of your words I can take stuff out of context. &#8211; I just read the peice Michael Antonucci referred to and part of what he&#8217;s complaining about is language as imagery that the author uses. No context from Antonucci&#8217;s cut out quotes, but what would one expect. </p>
<p>Redhog &#8211; Whatever you want to say about the big dog (Bill Clinton), at least Clinton hired Klein to be a prosecutor not to run the Department of Ed. Context is as important as the quote.</p>
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		<title>By: redhog</title>
		<link>http://www.edwize.org/those-rare-moments-of-political-clarity/comment-page-1#comment-386</link>
		<dc:creator>redhog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the lights and microphones are off, and there is nothing to be gained by carefully calculated proclamations of righteous &quot;principle&quot;, all politicians on every level, conservative and liberal, Republican and Democrat, are equal as they laugh to scorn, over their gins and tonics, the faith of their constituents. Give me truth serum or hypnosis anytime, and you will see that I share your feelings about Bush. But that cronyism and &quot;old-boy&quot; garbage was just as true under our friends the &quot;progressives&#039; as our correctly despised and mortal, implacable foes, the damned reactionaries. By the well, Chancellor Joel Klein, was a fair-haired (???) chum of Bill Clinton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the lights and microphones are off, and there is nothing to be gained by carefully calculated proclamations of righteous &#8220;principle&#8221;, all politicians on every level, conservative and liberal, Republican and Democrat, are equal as they laugh to scorn, over their gins and tonics, the faith of their constituents. Give me truth serum or hypnosis anytime, and you will see that I share your feelings about Bush. But that cronyism and &#8220;old-boy&#8221; garbage was just as true under our friends the &#8220;progressives&#8217; as our correctly despised and mortal, implacable foes, the damned reactionaries. By the well, Chancellor Joel Klein, was a fair-haired (???) chum of Bill Clinton.</p>
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		<title>By: NYC Educator</title>
		<link>http://www.edwize.org/those-rare-moments-of-political-clarity/comment-page-1#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>NYC Educator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His attacks on this blog notwithstanding, I&#039;m personally quite encouraged that Mr. Antonucci is so sympathetic to the ICE caucus, and Mr. Scott. It&#039;s great to see folks like Mr. Antonucci openly sharing their passion for fair pay and treatment for NYC teachers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His attacks on this blog notwithstanding, I&#8217;m personally quite encouraged that Mr. Antonucci is so sympathetic to the ICE caucus, and Mr. Scott. It&#8217;s great to see folks like Mr. Antonucci openly sharing their passion for fair pay and treatment for NYC teachers.</p>
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		<title>By: institutional memory</title>
		<link>http://www.edwize.org/those-rare-moments-of-political-clarity/comment-page-1#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>institutional memory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just followed Edwize&#039;s link to Mike Antonucci&#039;s EIA site, and, in his words, &quot;Mike&#039;s own writings have appeared in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, Investor&#039;s Business Daily, The American Enterprise, and many other periodicals ...&quot;  My, what a fair and balanced group of publications.  If he were a TV pundit, he&#039;d be a natural for Fox.  Leo, &quot;disingenuousness&quot; is a kind characterization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just followed Edwize&#8217;s link to Mike Antonucci&#8217;s EIA site, and, in his words, &#8220;Mike&#8217;s own writings have appeared in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, Investor&#8217;s Business Daily, The American Enterprise, and many other periodicals &#8230;&#8221;  My, what a fair and balanced group of publications.  If he were a TV pundit, he&#8217;d be a natural for Fox.  Leo, &#8220;disingenuousness&#8221; is a kind characterization.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo Casey</title>
		<link>http://www.edwize.org/those-rare-moments-of-political-clarity/comment-page-1#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a level of extraordinary disingenuousness here, but I suppose that is to be expected, given the cast of characters.

Of course, since this is a blog, one does not reproduce the entire post one is referring to, one links to it. And there was a link, so anyone could go and read Antonucci in the original. By all means, read all of it. It is very informative.

It is also the case, as Norman Scott knows quite well, that labor law in NY State requires unions to make clear and unambiguous divisions between what is done officially by the union and what is done by union political parties, both those in office and the opposition. You will note that the UFT blog links to no political caucus in the union, in conformity with our understanding of the state law. This has been the union&#039;s long-standing practice with respect to our official web-site as well.

And it is amusing to read long comments on how one is being censored in the very place that is supposedly doing the censoring. We should all be so censored.

Now it has to be a little embarrassing to be posing as the truly authentic radical left wing, and then have it pointed out that your friends promoting you are rabidly anti-union partisans of the far right, of the sort that take umbrage at calling Bush&#039;s handling of the aftermath of Katrina &quot;incompetent.&quot; But, hey, why seek out those partnerships then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a level of extraordinary disingenuousness here, but I suppose that is to be expected, given the cast of characters.</p>
<p>Of course, since this is a blog, one does not reproduce the entire post one is referring to, one links to it. And there was a link, so anyone could go and read Antonucci in the original. By all means, read all of it. It is very informative.</p>
<p>It is also the case, as Norman Scott knows quite well, that labor law in NY State requires unions to make clear and unambiguous divisions between what is done officially by the union and what is done by union political parties, both those in office and the opposition. You will note that the UFT blog links to no political caucus in the union, in conformity with our understanding of the state law. This has been the union&#8217;s long-standing practice with respect to our official web-site as well.</p>
<p>And it is amusing to read long comments on how one is being censored in the very place that is supposedly doing the censoring. We should all be so censored.</p>
<p>Now it has to be a little embarrassing to be posing as the truly authentic radical left wing, and then have it pointed out that your friends promoting you are rabidly anti-union partisans of the far right, of the sort that take umbrage at calling Bush&#8217;s handling of the aftermath of Katrina &#8220;incompetent.&#8221; But, hey, why seek out those partnerships then?</p>
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		<title>By: kombiz</title>
		<link>http://www.edwize.org/those-rare-moments-of-political-clarity/comment-page-1#comment-380</link>
		<dc:creator>kombiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael - This is a blog and Leo linked to your original source, which is how blogs work. I&#039;ve expanded the link to your post so it&#039;s easier to see. On the question of user registration, it&#039;s an effecient way to cut comment spam, and people impersonating other writers. Forcing registration is a standard practice for blogs that allow comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael &#8211; This is a blog and Leo linked to your original source, which is how blogs work. I&#8217;ve expanded the link to your post so it&#8217;s easier to see. On the question of user registration, it&#8217;s an effecient way to cut comment spam, and people impersonating other writers. Forcing registration is a standard practice for blogs that allow comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm Scott EdNotes</title>
		<link>http://www.edwize.org/those-rare-moments-of-political-clarity/comment-page-1#comment-377</link>
		<dc:creator>Norm Scott EdNotes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My colleague Sean Ahern posted the  criticique below on ICE-mail on my use of the Antonucci comments and makes some very valid points about the anti public school &quot;agenda&quot;of the libertarian movement. My difference with Sean is that I do not look at motivations when Antonucci digs up certain contradictions in his &quot;mining&quot; the underbelly of union politics and his pointing out that Edwize is not all that it is made out to be is a point worth noting, though it is better to have Edwize than nothing at all and maybe one day Mike Antonucci might point to places where teachers without any union protection can comment openly at all. 
And Ron Isaac, no we can&#039;t all get along but I urge everyone to read his blog at risaac.blogs.com so I don&#039;t have to talk him down from the roof.
Norm Scott

I am concerned by Norm&#039;s readiness to hold  up the EIA&#039;s critique of EdWize as some sort of trophy with which to beat Casey with.  Since when is Antonucci an authority on internal union business?  Its like quoting the KKK to mediate a dispute in the Black community. 

&quot;The enemy of your enemy is not your friend.&quot; 
 
The EIA is a Tom Delay/Pombo right wing &quot;libertarian&quot; project whose mission is to fish in troubled waters and undermine teacher unions by posing as a  critic of the union bureacracies.  
 
Privatization of public education  is the watchword of this crowd and their strongest opposition comes from the NEA and AFT. Privatization is a hard sell to teachers so they soft pedal that and pose instead  as critics of undemocratic practices within the unions. EIA has also shown a white supremacist bent in their mocking and derisive characterization of the NEA&#039;s discussion of reparations for the descendants of slaves. This may also play well among some teachers (Wouldn&#039;t the enemies of teacher unionism just love to see  a white supremacist split off from the NEA!) but it&#039;s the kiss of death for a credible rank and file reform movement in the UFT.  With &quot;friends&quot; like this , who needs enemies?
 
The lack of democracy is real in the AFT, but so is the EIA&#039;s hidden agenda.  They are on a fishing mission to establish anti union beach heads within the unions themselves.  I hope that ICErs will not succumb to flattery. 
 
We are critics of the UFT because it falls far short of what a union should be, the EIA is a critic because teacher unions exist.  Unions are targets for the EIA.  Unions and union contracts  are our first line of defense, inadequate as they are.  Three years without a contract,  no right to strike, high stakes testing, corporate &quot;reform&quot;, underfunded, overcrowded schools and underpaid teachers in predominantly poor and working class districts?  Ever read any &quot;intelligence&quot; reporting on that in the EIA? Ever see a positive proposal to correct the problem?    
    
Peace,
Sean Ahern</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My colleague Sean Ahern posted the  criticique below on ICE-mail on my use of the Antonucci comments and makes some very valid points about the anti public school &#8220;agenda&#8221;of the libertarian movement. My difference with Sean is that I do not look at motivations when Antonucci digs up certain contradictions in his &#8220;mining&#8221; the underbelly of union politics and his pointing out that Edwize is not all that it is made out to be is a point worth noting, though it is better to have Edwize than nothing at all and maybe one day Mike Antonucci might point to places where teachers without any union protection can comment openly at all.<br />
And Ron Isaac, no we can&#8217;t all get along but I urge everyone to read his blog at risaac.blogs.com so I don&#8217;t have to talk him down from the roof.<br />
Norm Scott</p>
<p>I am concerned by Norm&#8217;s readiness to hold  up the EIA&#8217;s critique of EdWize as some sort of trophy with which to beat Casey with.  Since when is Antonucci an authority on internal union business?  Its like quoting the KKK to mediate a dispute in the Black community. </p>
<p>&#8220;The enemy of your enemy is not your friend.&#8221; </p>
<p>The EIA is a Tom Delay/Pombo right wing &#8220;libertarian&#8221; project whose mission is to fish in troubled waters and undermine teacher unions by posing as a  critic of the union bureacracies.  </p>
<p>Privatization of public education  is the watchword of this crowd and their strongest opposition comes from the NEA and AFT. Privatization is a hard sell to teachers so they soft pedal that and pose instead  as critics of undemocratic practices within the unions. EIA has also shown a white supremacist bent in their mocking and derisive characterization of the NEA&#8217;s discussion of reparations for the descendants of slaves. This may also play well among some teachers (Wouldn&#8217;t the enemies of teacher unionism just love to see  a white supremacist split off from the NEA!) but it&#8217;s the kiss of death for a credible rank and file reform movement in the UFT.  With &#8220;friends&#8221; like this , who needs enemies?</p>
<p>The lack of democracy is real in the AFT, but so is the EIA&#8217;s hidden agenda.  They are on a fishing mission to establish anti union beach heads within the unions themselves.  I hope that ICErs will not succumb to flattery. </p>
<p>We are critics of the UFT because it falls far short of what a union should be, the EIA is a critic because teacher unions exist.  Unions are targets for the EIA.  Unions and union contracts  are our first line of defense, inadequate as they are.  Three years without a contract,  no right to strike, high stakes testing, corporate &#8220;reform&#8221;, underfunded, overcrowded schools and underpaid teachers in predominantly poor and working class districts?  Ever read any &#8220;intelligence&#8221; reporting on that in the EIA? Ever see a positive proposal to correct the problem?    </p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Sean Ahern</p>
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		<title>By: JennyD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JennyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My only thought is this: It&#039;s a little difficult to see the links in EdWize posts. I had to hunt around. Have you considered highlighting the linked text in a color that stands out more? (Aging eyes, you know.) Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only thought is this: It&#8217;s a little difficult to see the links in EdWize posts. I had to hunt around. Have you considered highlighting the linked text in a color that stands out more? (Aging eyes, you know.) Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: redhog</title>
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		<dc:creator>redhog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 06:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw, c&#039;mon. Can&#039;t we all just get along? For tips on this and how to unite the educational community in common-sense and common cause, check out risaac.blogs.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, c&#8217;mon. Can&#8217;t we all just get along? For tips on this and how to unite the educational community in common-sense and common cause, check out risaac.blogs.com</p>
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