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Thousands Join ‘Save Our City’ Rally to Protest Budget Cuts

Highlights from yesterday’s rally at City Hall:

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  • 1 Phyllis C. Murray
    · Jun 17, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Visit:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYVMm-H7oa4

    This is the coverage you may have missed traveling to and from the rally. Good Show!
    Phyllis C. Murray, UFT Chapter Leader 75X

  • 2 Brian H.
    · Jun 18, 2010 at 9:27 am

    I’m not a great advocate for drastic budget cuts, but something must be done. Can’t really raise taxes more in NYC, there won’t be any taxpayers left thus causing even more drastic budget cuts. Wish there was a simple way to encourage more millionaire taxpayers to move back to NYC, pay their taxes so budgets could be raised instead of cut.

  • 3 John Powers
    · Jun 21, 2010 at 11:38 am

    Dear Brian,

    How about taxing Wall Street speculation? And putting Glass Steagall back? The great irony and folly regarding the austerity measures being imposed upon the working class and the unions’ fightback against them is that no one is willing to take on Wall Street (challenge capital). Our politicians have been bought off by big business and unions need to acknowledge this and implement a program that relies less on political lobbying and more on grass roots organizing. My hope is that this will change soon.

    What happens when the Democratic party doesn’t need labor anymore because they accept funding whole-heartedly from the hedge-fund dregs of society? Look at NYC. Look at the ideological attack that has been implemented against us via mailings, print media and the legislative process in Albany.

    Andrew Cuomo and his desire to have a constitutional convention will perhaps be the straw that breaks the camel’s back for unionists. If he is elected and this convention takes place, we can kiss our pension structure goodbye. Do you think the public will be at all sympathetic?

    Right now labor still operates within an ideological glass ceiling that says: “Don’t take on big business.”

    Just some things to consider Brian.

    Have a good day,
    John

    P.S. Why must we rely on millionaire taxpayers? How about a government that bails out the people by creating public works programs? Infrastructure…how about changing our trade policies so that we can begin building things again in our country…???

  • 4 John Powers
    · Jun 21, 2010 at 11:39 am

    infrastructure

  • 5 xkaydet65
    · Jun 21, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    I am bewildered by how much pseudo Marxist dialectic I find here. Tax the rich! Tax the Banks.Have the US Govt borrow more from China to create jobs.History lesson.Govt spending ended the Depression.It was called not the New Deal, but WW2.That we didn’t slide back into depression was the result of rationing that prevented wages from being spent on non essentials.There was a pent up savings demand that forced an increase in supply.Hence the post war boom.The govt spending to finance the war was borrowed from the American people.Now we borrow from China. Not a good situation and not one to be made worse by more borrowing.

    As to the cuts, the private workforce has decreased by 8% since 07, while the public workforce has decreased by .85%.Public salaries and benefits outstrip comparable positions in the private sector, so maybe it’s time for some public sacrifice to help reduce govt spending.As to the big bad banks.This isn’t 1906 when J P Morgan owned everything.The hated CEOs are employees, highly rewarded but employees.The banks, financial houses are corporations that have stockholders:public employee pension funds, 401Ks,IRA portfolios.
    Taking on the banks will reduce dividends and stock value,diminishing pensions et. al.So unless the UFT is going tosupport a totasl transformation of the US into a govt controlled command economy where the govt sees that all are rewarded equally,like the 8 year old at the birthday party who demands every one get the same amount of soda and same size piece of cake, I would suggest the leadership join in planning on how to lessen the pain for the union and abide by spending cuts that recognize the limits of taxation. The guy who makes a 150K running a landscape business in Mineola,paying salary,and FICA,maintaining his equpment is not going to sympathize with the fact that a 100K teacher has 32 kids in class instead of 24. Time for public service unions to get real.

  • 6 Flower
    · Jun 21, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    Wow xkaydet65,

    You sound very angry. Have you visited this site before?

    Where is the pseudo Marxist dialect?

    It says tax wall street speculation, not wall street.

    It says tax wall street, not tax the rich.

    It says don’t rely on the rich for taxes.

    It says bring back glass steagall (a firewall between commercial and investment banks).

    Where does it say continue to borrow from China? It implies borrowing from the people to create a public works program. We bailed out wall street. Why can’t we bail out the people by putting them to work, building up our outdated infrastructure and simultaneously allowing them to spend money in the economy?

    You serve up the usual right-wing rhetoric: divide and conquer. Pit private workers against public worker. Maybe private workers should unionize?

    wall street engages in criminal speculation and all workers (private and public) must share the burden, right?

    Are you saying that we do not have monopoly capitalism today (JP Morgan)? Even Adam Smith recognized and warned of the dangers we are now experiencing with unfettered, monopoly capitalism (which has created a plutocracy). Smith said in order to have free competition there must be safeguards in place to make sure big business does not consolidate and squash the little boys.

    Should finance control (regulate) government or should government control (regulate) finance?

    Talk about pseudo…your last paragraph is one big pseudo intellectual straw man. Socialism, 8 year old parties and birthday cakes…come on now.

    The guy making 150 k does not have to sympathize. He wouldn’t be the target audience. Get it?

    Last, please stop with the foolish scare tactics about the regulation of wall street producing the collapse of dividends and pensions. It’s just plain silly.

    Good night xkaydet,

    Flower
    (BTW: I don’t know about John, but I am not a Marxist, a democrat or a republican. I am a proud Tea Party member).

  • 7 Flower
    · Jun 22, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    Sorry.
    The fifth line above should have read:

    “It says tax wall street speculation, not tax the rich.”

    Here is another petal of thought…

    Why was America so productive during the years 1945-1975? Would the country have done better with less regulation?

    Flower

  • 8 Paul Rubin
    · Aug 11, 2010 at 2:14 am

    So with the passage of the $26B, what does that do for NYC schools? Is the money going to go back into school budgets, be set aside to offset future cuts midyear or for next year, or be used to throw away more money on testing?

  • 9 Brian
    · Nov 20, 2010 at 10:40 am

    Hi John,

    I think fraud of all sorts should be taken on. Whether that is found on Wall Street, the schools, in congress, or unions.

    Let’s start saving money in those places and then see what must be done. However, I don’t think taxing the rich, and causing them to leave states like NY is the best thing to do for the taxing jurisdictions. Once the rich people and their money leave NY, all you will have left is the middle class and poor and they won’t be able to support the city and state.

    If only we could have one experimental state where rates are cut, both federally and state wise and see what happens over a 2-3 year period. That way, in case you’re correct, in the fact that taxes must be raised, not too much damage is done.

    Thanks for your thoughts,
    Brian